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Style Question
« on: Aug 15, 2012, 05:56 pm »
I'm in a debate right now over what are construed as rehearsal appropriate and rehearsal-inappropriate clothes. 

When I'm ASMing, I opt for clothes that allow me to move - mostly yoga pants/exercise pants and tank tops.  Occasionally jeans, and occasionally a dress over leggings, but ultimately, clothes that I can move and move quickly.

When I'm PSMing I opt for nicer clothes - mostly nice pants and tops, or nice jeans with tall boots, and I take care to do my hair and makeup more so than when I'm ASMing.

So - thoughts?  Discuss!


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Re: Style Question
« Reply #1 on: Aug 15, 2012, 09:23 pm »
Unless I'm in fit-up, I'm pretty much always in a shirt and trousers - regardless of the role I'm working in.
Never shorts, unless it's outdoors and VERY hot, and T-shirts are very rare for me - I stretch to a polo shirt if my iron is broken.

Your method sounds pretty normal though!

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #2 on: Aug 15, 2012, 10:10 pm »
Button shirts with personality.
Nice jeans.
Shoes.

No shorts, no t-shrirts (AND NEVER T-SHIRTS WITH WRITING ON IT).
No sweats.
Oddly, for my ASMs no skirts or dresses (I think it ultimately depends on the show and if you can do your rehearsal track . . .)

Yoga pants on the edge - as long as they don't look like sweats.

Shorts are okay outside.

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #3 on: Aug 15, 2012, 10:38 pm »
Nice jeans or dress pants - no holes, tears or rips.
Clean, work casual top. Not always a button-up. Tanks/camis if I know I'll be doing a LOT of moving/heavy lifting, but I usually have it under a nicer top. As a woman, you have to have the option of changing up or down. I've been surprised with patron/producer visits more times than I can count.
Shoes I can work in - that can be flats or shorter heels (depending on the work day), or dressy boots. All shoes have to have good tread.
All my rehearsal rooms tend to be freezing, so I'm kind of known for my sweaters  ;)
Make-up...I MIGHT wear it once a month - I've never been a big fan, but that's my personality. If the mood strikes I might come in with light coverage, but then I get funny looks from my tech crew.

I wore a dress to rehearsal once. I was asked constantly if I had an important meeting or job interview that day. That was the last time I did that.


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Re: Style Question
« Reply #4 on: Aug 16, 2012, 01:37 am »
Let me amend this - let's remember I also live and work in Southern California...VERY different than what I would wear if I was working in New York, or even on the East coast.  How much do you think location in the country plays into what's okay to wear to rehearsal? 

For example, out here, yoga pants are sort of the norm everywhere...grocery store, movie, mall...but when I go to new york, I wouldn't think of wearing yoga pants on the street unless I were actually going to a yoga class.

I am also an athletic, physical person, and I think of my job as a very physical job - so I dress to that occasion by wearing clothes I can move in. 

And I would wear a dress to rehearsal if I wore leggings underneath it, and if it were a cotton dress in which I could easily move and didn't care about getting dirty/scarred by moving a table in rehearsal.

Continue the discussion....this is helpful and insightful!

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #5 on: Aug 16, 2012, 07:52 am »
"I am also an athletic, physical person, and I think of my job as a very physical job - so I dress to that occasion by wearing clothes I can move in."

If you think of your job as a MANAGER as a physical job, you are giving off a very subtle unspoken message.  If you dress and approach it as a management position, then there is something you are stating.  (I had a PA who wore sweats, with the logic, and I said, point blank - that although we do do physical things with in the rehearsal, we still are management)

If you dress casual, just make sure if fits in with your style - can you imagine a type A stage manager who dresses very casual?  I get away with how I dress I think because it is in sync with the way I want I manage, and how I want people to view me.

I get away with bowling shirts, not everyone could.

I also try not to out dress the director. 
« Last Edit: Aug 16, 2012, 08:34 am by MatthewShiner »
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Re: Style Question
« Reply #6 on: Aug 16, 2012, 10:10 am »
Matthew - I do agree with you - we are management - but a regional theatre ASM position involves a lot of schlepping of heavy scenery and rehearsal pieces...so it's an interesting balance between management and hard physical labor...I'll go back to what I said earlier; if I were PSMing and doing mostly sitting and more interface with producers/designers, it is a different story.

The culture of the theatre/company is also something to consider when addressing this topic...

I also ride my bike to work quite frequently - which plays into what I wear as well.....

Interesting conversation.
« Last Edit: Aug 16, 2012, 10:26 am by BalletPSM »
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Re: Style Question
« Reply #7 on: Aug 16, 2012, 10:17 am »
I also try not to out dress the director.

I did a regional production of Doubt with a director who wore exclusively Tommy Bahama shirts and old faded jeans.  It would have been very hard to not out dress him.  Great guy, though, definitely ranks amongst one of the nicest directors I have worked with regionally.

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #8 on: Aug 16, 2012, 11:33 am »
And as ASM, the quick answer is . . . what does the PSM/SM or production management want me to wear.  I love with an assistant asks me that.
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Re: Style Question
« Reply #9 on: Aug 16, 2012, 11:59 am »
I'm really digging this thread... very interesting.

My take: I'm a young woman SM. Proud AEA member for years, live and work in NYC. There are shows for which I've worn slacks, pretty blouses or sweaters and dress shoes to rehearse (and to run); there are shows I've rehearsed in a summer dress and sandals. BalletPSM's point about the culture of the theatre/company - and I would add, each individual production - is well taken.

...And here's a situation to consider: On my current show, rehearsal room AC noise/efficacy was a concern. We were rehearsing in a warm room, in the middle of a hot July in NYC. I wore a skirt or dress every single day, save two when I wore bermuda shorts and a tank top. I got compliments on my attire, and also schlepped benches, tables, chairs, costume racks and boxes of props like a champion every day. No one batted an eye... and every person in the room has Broadway credits; the GMs (love 'em) always wear collared shirts, and I am absolutely a valued member of management.

That said, I did ask my PSM, before the first paid public performance, what attire was her preference for running the deck - and I faithfully wear long sleeves, pants, etc. to run shows. (Like the rehearsal room, our theater's AC can be finicky - backstage can get downright TOASTY!)

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #10 on: Aug 16, 2012, 02:11 pm »
Also coming from a strictly California work environment - the SF Bay - our dress styles have been a bit lax - at least with every SM I've come across here (except for one very fashionable PSM who now works at Ford's and one up in Ashland, both male...).

When I was EMC'ing, my SMs always wore jeans, sneakers and T-shirts. However, the T-shirts were always clean, no holes, and generally interesting. You never know what you're going to be doing, so you dress for movement and getting dirty. I can say I've NEVER worn a dress or skirt to a rehearsal, simply because I'm not a dress-wearing-person, and I feel much more comfortable in jeans. I also made a point for several years not to wear sandals or dress shoes, as I felt cross-trainer sneakers were the best thing for me to move quickly and quietly around the rehearsal hall.

However, when I started working with a new theater with new directors, I found myself dressing to their style and conforming with their attitudes (more relaxed). I worked with two men who always wore shorts, flip flops and generally an open button down short sleeve shirt over a t-shirt. I started wearing sneaker-like sandals, and sometimes flip flops, along with shorts to those rehearsals. Granted, these were staged reading-style musicals, so there wasn't the need to run around to move things (except resetting a music stand), but it was something new for me - and I didn't feel any less a part of management; I looked just like the boss.

With my resident PSM job, I really have no idea what I'll be doing in any given day - aside from my usual daily tasks. There have been days where I've worn a blouse, dress slacks and heels, and then found myself schlepping boxes in the basement, crawling on the dance floor, mopping, dealing with clogged toilets, you name it. I've gone back to my adoption of the cross-trainers, jeans and solid-color T's. I also work on a mezzanine level, so at any time I run out of my office and sprint up the stairs to any of my 5 studios to help fix sound systems, deal with injuries, set up props, etc. There is no elevator access to my office.

In past years, while the rest of our admin staff has casual Friday, my ASM started "Fancy Friday" where we would dress up for the day. We did make a point to bring different shoes and alternate clothes in the case that we would be doing something dirty.

I'll say that my style is what it's always been, and sometimes, if it's a special day, like Dress Rehearsal or one of our 4 performances, I will wear makeup and heels - but never for rehearsal. Working with dancers, the makeup melts off just minutes into sitting in a studio, and the clothes ruined as soon as I start crawling on the floor cleaning up floor tape.

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #11 on: Aug 16, 2012, 03:38 pm »
I wear nice jeans or slacks, a top or button-down shirt, and usually a sweater or cardigan over. (Most of the rehearsal rooms I work in are cold.) Flats or loafers, not sneakers. Usually a little jewelry but rarely makeup. As an ASM, I take my cues from the SM. (I have worn sneakers as an ASM if I'm moving a lot of scenery or furniture).

I worked at an opera company where, in performance, ASMs were expected to wear nice dresses and heels to run the show. I had a really hard time getting used to that, but it was the culture there and it was expected. The PSM wore dresses and practical heels every single day- and to her credit she was able to do anything in heels, including moving heavy scenery.

I will sometimes bike to work and if I do I bring a second set of clothes.

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #12 on: Aug 16, 2012, 03:42 pm »
On my current show, my director usually wears ridiculous Hawaiian shirts with beer bottles or something on them. I feel totally comfortable and in control wearing jeans and a simple top. I would feel okay being totally dressed down and wearing casual t-shirts, given the environment the director has created - BUT, I'm young and female and have a Problem Actor who is known around town as being disrespectful toward stage managers. I got warnings from multiple people as soon as he was cast. So I'm not going to go QUITE that casual. Last show was a casual t-shirt environment, this one is more suited for blouses and sweaters and solid tees. Also - I keep a plain black danskin hoodie in my car. The rehearsal space has been bizarrely cold, even though it's a hundred degrees outside, so I always bring a plain black button-up sweatshirt in to rehearsals with me.

Another thing I have to keep in mind is that I have tattoos. They're all in places that are very easily covered (feet, legs, torso, back), but... on this show, I wore sandals to an early tablework rehearsal and aforementioned Problem Actor reached out (without asking) and grabbed my foot to look at my tattoo, so... no more sandals, flats, or even heels on this production. Sneakers, boots, anything that covers the top of my foot. And I know now that I will never be able to wear a skirt or a tanktop on this show, because of tattoos. (I'm not terribly likely to wear a skirt anyway, except for maybe opening. But I guess opening for this show will be slacks!)

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #13 on: Aug 16, 2012, 05:33 pm »
I also try not to out dress the director.


Funny - I'm the opposite. I always try to dress just a step (or a step-and-a-half) nicer / less casual than the director. Now - this may be because I'm young, and usually work with directors who are a fair bit older than me, so I dress up to compensate for the age difference. Though even working with directors of a similar age, I tend to dress in sync with them, but just a touch more formal. I guess I go along with your thinking about managers, and how, at the end of the day, I am, as a Stage Manager, a touch more formal than the rest of process - I am not, so to speak, "right in there, getting my hands dirty," and I'm often looked at to be more objective and removed from the guts of the show. Being a little more formal with my dress is one way of channeling that.

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Re: Style Question
« Reply #14 on: Aug 16, 2012, 07:25 pm »
I will sometimes bike to work and if I do I bring a second set of clothes.

80% of the time I drive a scooter to work (not a liquor-cycle, mine goes 60mph) so I do get the sideways looks with some of my clothing choices while on the road. It's another reason I'm not too keen on skirts or dresses, unless I pack them separately for an event after work.
On top of that I have very thick, shoulder length curly hair. I've become adept at doing a quick 3-minute hair style with bobby pins and hair bands once the helmet comes off.