AEA Set Moves

[hbelden]

LORT rule 59 (B) is:

(B) An Actor out of character may set or move scenery or props only in scenes in which the Actor enters or exits.

I've always taken this to mean the french scene - i.e., Puck enters with a three-legged stool, puts it on spike, and starts the scene with the First Fairy.  But could it mean the stage scene, i.e., Oberon sets the stool then exits and waits for his entrance a page later?

Thanks,

[nick_tochelli]

My understanding is yes.

[RuthNY]

And my understanding is "no." A phone call to your business rep. is in order here! Let us know what answer you get!

LORT rule 59 (B) is:

(B) An Actor out of character may set or move scenery or props only in scenes in which the Actor enters or exits.

I've always taken this to mean the french scene - i.e., Puck enters with a three-legged stool, puts it on spike, and starts the scene with the First Fairy.  But could it mean the stage scene, i.e., Oberon sets the stool then exits and waits for his entrance a page later?

Thanks,

[MatthewShiner]

Depends on your business rep - in Shakespeare I have had it approved for an actor to do a scene - exit, thus finishing his acting for the scene, and then come in two pages later for the scene changed.  All approved. 

[VSM]

Interesting. Very interesting.
I would go with Ruth on this one.
And I am very interested in the fact that Mathew got permission from an AEA Rep to clear his situation.
Interesting. Very interesting...

[MatthewShiner]

If you look at the wording of the rule

(B) An Actor out of character may set or move scenery or props only in scenes in which the Actor enters or exits.

It doesn't read AS they enter or exit.  So, you can read that it's by the scene - and that is how the AEA rep was quoting this back.  That was the argument.  It came up when I took over the show - there were three moves, two were let in by that rule, one ended up being paid.

But, call your rep . . . .

[BayAreaSM]

All of my experiences have been with "AS the actor enters or exits" - for anything else the non-eq's are used to move set pieces. Though while I was working for a Shakespeare Company, they felt that listing actors on their contracts as

Role: William, As Cast

..the "As Cast" note led them to feel that AEA actors could be used to shift scenery in a scene that was not their specific scene. I always made a point to find an available non-eq to do the shift instead, or a costumed crew member, to avoid any conflict.

[MatthewShiner]

It does depend on the contract . . .

And note, the pay on the LORT contract for a per set move is VERY low . . .

[nick_tochelli]

oooo controversy! I causes it!

Yes I should have qualified that my understanding of "yes" was in the context of dem Shakeyspearey typey shows.

I've also had cast members who entered in scenes later do scene changes in modern/new works. I suppose that should have been a call to the rep on my part or the deputy, but it's obviously too late now as those shows are long since dead and buried.