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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2007, 11:03 am »
As someone who works at a college, I have to say it's a fine line to tread.

I won't go into details.  But sometimes even those of us just a few years into "adulthood" forget how challenging that transition can be.  You have to nuture as much as instruct.

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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2007, 07:19 pm »
Whilst we all seek to nurture young student SMs and harness "raw talent", there must be clear guidelines for acceptable behavior, the most important being safety. In order to deal with a problem worker, there needs to be discipline. No one can be afraid to say to him "don't do that," and to punish him when he does it again. As much as you can, define the problem as one of behavior and not one of emotion. As others have mentioned, you can alter behavior and actions more than you can adjust attitudes. People often turn away or isolate the problem person because we might not want to create more conflict by confronting him. And by confronting I don't mean shouting - just setting clear definitions of un/acceptable behavior. When they mess up, tell them, and when they mess up enough, say goodbye. When you deal with problem situations directly, you are also respecting the problem person by giving them a chance to do better by giving clear directives on how to improve their behavior and performance. And if you need to let them go, they'll know why. But your reasons must always be good and clear ones, especially in the tumultuous arena of student theatre.

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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #17 on: Jun 08, 2007, 10:39 pm »
I know this too is a late response, but I came into SMin in college with ZERO experience but was simply willing to learn. I think this is where the line needs to start being drawn. Colleges need to stop assigning random people whom seem to have some free time to SM positions (I've had it happen to me and my close SM friends and it always seems to turn out awful) and actually get students interested in the SM area of theatre.

I know a major problem for us is the fact that our program is so run down and is no longer drawing people in, to the point that they are willing to take anyone and I think if this practice were turned around these awful ASM's would be eliminated all together.

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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #18 on: Jun 09, 2007, 01:07 am »
aggreed
I came from Vega to small town utah and i was immedatilly put into a PSM becasue I was the only one willing and had a tiny bit of experience.
I have had some many just horrible ASMs here that I now perfer not to have one at all. and the only reason she was held on was beacasue it was a college show, but she will now not be conisidered as a stage manager ever again
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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #19 on: Jun 09, 2007, 09:58 pm »
You can't just "eliminate" these trouble ASMs like Dr. Claw in Inspector Gadget.
Bad ASMs will always be a part of a SM's life, especially in school settings.

Remember, every now and then someone gets assigned to be an SM (ASM/PSM/whatever) and is actually brilliant and might even go on to pursue SMing professionally. Maybe that person was you once.

A big part of being a PSM is working with these ASMs. Helping those you can help, diverting those who need diverting, and on the rare occasion, dismissing those who need dismissing. A good SM can always move forward, regardless of idiots blocking the road to success. You will have to work with it, because there will be a next idiot, and soon. The question is not how to eliminate them; the question is how to get on with the show. Be proactive! Offer solutions! Learn from this hellish experience (now you know who not to hire next time)! You can hate these bad ASMs - but you must hate them silently, in the privacy of your own home. In the meantime, there's work to be done.

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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #20 on: Jun 09, 2007, 10:25 pm »
You can't just "eliminate" these trouble ASMs like Dr. Claw in Inspector Gadget.

But wouldn't it be nice if we could???

(I do actually agree with you that finding solutions to keep the show going is the best solution, but there are times when Dr. Claw would be great...)

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Re: Trouble ASM
« Reply #21 on: Jun 10, 2007, 02:10 pm »
As much frustration as it causes me, there are times I'm glad I'm in an academic program that does NOT teach stage management as a concentration or major.  We get student PA's who earn one credit hour, and very little is expected of them (sweeping and coffee).  This means I am pleasantly surprised when they "go the extra mile", but it also means that the staff carpenters are often working crew (for generous overtime amounts) when shows are technically complicated.

The frustration comes, as always, in rehearsal, when the PA's don't know (or don't care) how to be pro-active and anticipate/solve problems.  But now that I have lowered my expectations to nearly zero, things are going a lot better.

And when things do go wrong, that's when the zen Bhuddism lessons (and vallium) come in... ;D
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