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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 25, 2011, 12:28 pm »
I think you are confusing creativity with simply reacting. To me, creativity always comes from knowledge and experience, just as the freedom to create brilliance often comes from having boundaries. SMs are successful in solving crises because we have proactively trained ourselves for any eventuality, whether it's a blown fuse or the sound system crashing or covering an actor's track due to sudden illness / injury, but in a real life situation, it takes inventiveness. We have to be able to roll with whatever happens and make it work. When my sound system went down during a show, I talked my crew through finding things to stand in for the life and death sounds, relaying info to the cast, relaying solutions to the board op and the TD, letting folks know which cues were or were not going to happen - that is creativity. It came from my experience and training which generated a creative solution. Similarly, my knowledge- and experience-based creativity in nontechnical skills has convinced actors to go on stage with people they hate or in situations that terrified them needlessly (like being in front of an audience), solved costume or set shift issues, trained understudies or gave notes to performers whose acting language didn't match the directors, etc etc etc. Our job requires both halves of the brain, both sides of the table, both creative and technical.

I think SMs are the most creative people on the planet. We know how to make things work on a dime, we see 100 uses for an object that no one else has considered, we stay calm in crisis and, like MacGyver, defuse the bomb with a paper clip. Just as the definition of luck is preparation meeting opportunity, creativity is knowledge and experience meeting challenges. And, if we are doing out jobs well, like Fred Astaire it looks easy, as if we aren't doing anything. So yes, I think we use our creativity all the time.

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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 24, 2011, 01:34 pm »
thank you RuthNY - I tried to google it unsuccessfully, and got as far as the liability and pay scale posts but yes - whether they were union or management in terms of collective bargaining, and our discussion included the fact that our role is named "manager".

Regardless, with your collective permission, and any input proffered, I am tackling the beast in what I hope to be a polite but impassioned dialogue about coloring across the lines and grey areas in theater's job definitions.

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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 24, 2011, 02:25 am »
It had to do with being officially being titled manager and having responsibility for those "under", primarily dealing with liability issues.

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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 19, 2011, 12:42 am »
Great essay - and my simple definition (again) is that we are the pin between the creative and technical teams = and therefore need to have at least passing understanding of both sides in order to communicate what's necessary to the appropriate team member. Admin implies nothing but paperwork, and there is much of that, but so much more. I know it doesn't look like we are on the creative side most of the time, because proactive preparation and asking the right qqs allows us to solve many problems before they happen and there are those who don't understand how creative that actually is. But wow, when it comes to problem solving - especially while the show is running - there is no one more creative!

It is just frustrating - TCG tells us to register as individual artists and offers a place to get a grant to pay for the conference with people who don't consider us artists at all, but administrators. The left hand and right hand (ironically not having a stage manager) don't know what the other is doing.

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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 18, 2011, 09:03 pm »
Here is their response:

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The Creative Capacity Fund categorizes Stage Managers as art administrators. 

Wow. Totally completely wow.

After that Kentucky nurses travesty, there were a slew of meetings about how to make sure stage managers were NOT considered management. Meaning not administrators in any capacity. So, anyone wanna barrage them with mail or send a lengthy petition signed by many many SMs or ... well, something? I feel like there needs to be a response and I am breathing a bit before I construct anything cuz it wouldn't help them understand what the $@^! our role is and what we actually do.


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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 17, 2011, 07:12 pm »
I am told this is being discussed tomorrow at a meeting in their offices. A full report will follow! (When I called the person I spoke with was a tad over-patient, so clearly some of the folks I shared this with also voiced concerns....)


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The Green Room / Re: Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 17, 2011, 02:28 am »
I am trying to follow this down and will report back once I get anything resembling an answer.


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The Green Room / Who are we, anyway...?
« on: May 16, 2011, 08:22 pm »
I had submitted an application for a grant to attend the TCG conference because I keep being in places where people with no idea make really bizarre assumptions regarding questions all of us know the answers to - and the need for the SMs voice to be a recognized part of the creative team as well as the technical team (I call us the pin between the two).

This is the answer I rec'd (editorial highlighting is mine)

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Thank you for your application to the Creative Capacity Fund’s Quick Grant Program.  However, we regret to inform you that your application is ineligible for consideration. Due to growing demand, the review process for professional development funds has become increasingly competitive.  In addition, we do not consider stage managers as applicants under the category individual artists.

Um, huh? Stage managers are not individual artists? Then what are we?

(Talk about the need to inform our own compatriots about our place on the team.....)

Anyone wanna weigh in on this?

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Self-Promotion / Re: Voyage de la Vie
« on: May 10, 2011, 05:21 pm »
what Maribeth said - first of all great to see you pop up on SMN.org but as someone who will have worked both sides of the coin, it'd be very interesting to have a compare/contrast. AND - what a great bonus for those (was it 2 or 3) Singapore SMs who joined us a few years back, to connect together and help generate an in-person community.

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The Green Room / Re: Trivia Tournament III - 2.0.11
« on: May 09, 2011, 03:30 am »
Cripes I hate the Geography category....

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Stage Management: Plays & Musicals / Re: PROPS: Edible dessert
« on: May 08, 2011, 12:51 pm »
Perhaps I am overreacting, but in all this discussion I started wondering who was taking care of this question on the other end. And while I love the idea of a freshly baked, store-bought cake for use in this show, I think this needs a step back.

Perhaps I misunderstood who is responsible for this. Seems to me this is a props issue, w input from Stage management about any food issues. Are we suggesting the SM bakes the cake?

Ingredients: That's $1 or more for the mix plus eggs, milk, oil - and TIME (!!!!!) to purchase these things, mix and bake the cake, the sheet pans necessary to cook it in and transport from, and the schlepping and storing issue itself, all on top of our already long day. Yes, a mix is a great idea, if someone else is doing it and being reimbursed and all. But to plant in your producer/director/folks running the joint's heads that this is part of the SMs job is the foundation for a major problem later on. Suggestions are terrific. Collecting ideas for the props person is great - and finding solutions others have used is one of the great resources of this site. But actually doing this? It's not your job.

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Self-Promotion / Re: I've found a new home!
« on: May 07, 2011, 10:10 pm »
congrats!

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The Green Room / Re: Achieving a Professional Understanding
« on: May 07, 2011, 04:21 am »
Old school SMs never socialized w casts with rare exception and on certain occasions, keeping a distance so they had credibility when notes etc had to be given, but these days I find more young SMs grabbing lunch etc w their casts. Generally speaking however, in my experience actors tend to exclude the SM in the casual stuff like drinks after, reinforced by the fact that they are often done and gone before we leave the theater.

When I have SMd shows populated with actor friends, we have discussed it ahead of time so ground rules are clear.

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 - same here. We used thicker glass, but we only scored it. Some kind of over-glaze might help the shatter aspect, but it also might impede your actor's ability to break it in the first place.

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