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Employment / Re: When is it OK to work for free?
« on: Aug 14, 2010, 02:40 pm »
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How does one learn to stage manage?  If you've never stage managed before in your life, how do you get your first stage management credit?  Volunteering at a community theatre is one way of learning.  We don't have an apprenticeship program in our industry.

We do have formal training programs through the country in Universities, Colleges and Theater Programs.  We do have ways of interning, assisting, and move up the ranks.  A good assistant, who is with a PSM or seasoned (there is that word again), can be taught how to bridge from Intern to PA to ASM to SM.

It is illegal to hire someone for a job, and pay them less the minimum wage.  That's just a fact of life.  How theaters get around this I have no idea . . . well, trust me, I understand the basics and the clever tactics one can manipulate the system.

Heath, If I  wanted to get into Opera for example, yes, I may expect to do an internship or one job for free, but after that, if I am working, I should be making money.  And to be honest, the first time I did opera, for example, I did get paid, but it was a smaller company and I was paid less then I was used to for rehearsal, but the pay per performance was very sweet.  Irregardless, I don't devalue my input to any project just because I may not have direct experience in it - I may just charge less.  I didn't do my first industrial for free.  I didn't do my first professional dance work for free.  I am an experienced, valued member of any production / creative team I work on, and should be compensated as such. 

The continual cycles of young stage managers (or not so young stage managers) working for nothing or next to nothing has to be broken.

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There is a professional theatre in this country; there is a robust amateur theatre in this country.  I don't think the fringe storefront theatre produced by a handful of recently-graduated actors should be held to the same standard as the LORT-D company in the next city.  Both have a vibrant place in our culture, and each has its own purpose and activity.

In regards the fringe storefront theatre, why not pay a living wage?  It should be the same standard as a LORT theatre, but reduce the hours, only rehearse at night - do something to allow them to make a living and do theatre on the side.  If the work week is 20 - 30 hours, then paying $200 a week isn't out of line.  But too often in New York we are seeing the jobs that are 50 work weeks for 150.00 a week. 

Also, I am fine if NO ONE IS BEING PAID - if everyone is volunteer, that's one thing - if everyone is doing it out of love for the project, here here, that is great.  But, too often, there is money being made, people being paid more then a living wage on the back of stage managers who are working for next to nothing.


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Employment / Re: When is it OK to work for free?
« on: Aug 13, 2010, 07:09 pm »
Never.  It's never okay to work for free.  Never.  Never.  Never.

You can do an internship; which is a bridge from the educational world to the professional world.  You should do one, maybe two.  But that’s it.

You can volunteer, help out a friend; donate your salary back to a company you really believe in.

But you should never, ever work for free.

It’s basic economics, supply and demand - the reason why theaters can get away with paying WAY below minimum wage, or nothing, (which, I am pretty sure is against the law) is that there are people willing to work for it.   

Why are people willing to work for nothing?  Or just tickets and beer?  (That sickens me even worse . . . )  The market is flooded with young stage managers who are desperate to get work or credits on their resume.  There are just too many stage managers competing for the jobs, so, many stage managers willing to work for nothing.

By continuing to accept these jobs, we cheapen the value of the stage manager . . . why should someone pay $400.00 a week, when I can find some one for $200.00 for the entire run.  And find 10 people applying for it.

It’s part of the entire “Struggling Artist” bull crap we are brain washed into.

Never.  It's never okay to work for free.  Never.  Never.  Never.

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The Green Room / Re: What did you learn today?
« on: Aug 12, 2010, 12:05 am »
No matter how many times I tell people I am in a bad mood, there is always a couple of people who will just annoy the crap out of me . . .

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Employment / Re: Websites
« on: Aug 10, 2010, 07:37 pm »
Using earlyfreespeech.net  (sorry, left this off my post)

did it on iweb.

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Employment / Re: Websites
« on: Aug 10, 2010, 11:07 am »
I have found an interesting web hosting site . . . and I picked out a new domain name and reworked my professional web page and hosted it here to see how I liked this service.

Rather then paying $xx.xx for a certain amount of bandwidth, storage and stuff you may not use . . . this has you pay for the actual data transferred . . . and given that a SMs web page may not be getting a lot of traffic this might be an interesting host solution.  Now, it's not a drag a drop answer, you will need a little savvy . . . but if I could figure it out . . .

Trust me, after the registering your site . . . which is about nine bucks, the rest of the cost per month for a low traffic site could be just a couple of bucks.

www.mwilliamshiner.com


the hosting site is nearlyfreespeech.net  (sorry, left this off)




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We do have an AD around who notes.

I can actually watch a bulk of the show, even when calling, and when I swap out to the ASM track (which is pretty easy on my track) - I can watch almost the entire show - if I remember to bring a pad and pen . . . which I almost always forget . . . so I end up scribbling notes on the back of my run sheets.

We do have understudy rehearsal every week (or now 3 out of 4 weeks).  We have one understudy who has three tracks . . . and has yet to go on for them . . . so, we still have work to do.

I would love to go out more then once a week, but it takes the two SMs we have on staff to run the show, and on the contract we are currently on . . . it just a lot of money to bring on a SUB if it is only for me to note (1/8 salary + Health Care / Pension / What Note) . . . if we have a scheduled out already, I tend to add one more show on so I can watch. 

Once we figure out how to run the show with only one SM, I think I would gleefully go out and watch more often.

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The Green Room / Re: "Seasoned" - yikes
« on: Aug 05, 2010, 05:48 pm »
Good cheese, wine, whiskey, beef, and apparently stage managers! :-)

Now that is going somewhere on my web site.


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But, here is the thing . . . if a sequence is getting too difficult during tech, you might need to cry foul.

I was in the middle of tech of Richard III, and we were getting to the battle sequence.  Huge walls parting, sword battles, lights, sound effects, in the middle of the sequence, Richard had to get his harness tightened, so that he could get hooked up to a Fly Line, and then have ropes tied to his arms and legs and be "drawn and quartered" on stage.  90 minutes into tech, it was obvious that the tech elements were becoming OVERLY complicated, and I would not be able to focus my attention on the people . . . so, I had to have a little pow-wow and we ended up not making anything simpler, but actually midi-connecting  lights and sounds . . . so I called fewer cues, got the complicate sequence the designers and directors wants, and I felt confident I could watch what I needed to watch (as well as two deck Stage Managers who could keep and eye on the things I couldn't see.)

Remember, if there are things we have to watch (either for safety purposes or to maintain the show artistically) - we sort of need to figure out how we are going to do it during tech and NOT let the sequences get out of control.   


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The Green Room / Re: "Seasoned" - yikes
« on: Aug 04, 2010, 11:25 pm »
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battle-scarred (scars are cool and chicks dig them, right?)

Yeah, that's right . . . always trying to impress the chicks.  (Ssssh)


No, no, I am fine with being Seasoned or Old . . . I guess.

Sigh.


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The Green Room / "Seasoned" - yikes
« on: Aug 04, 2010, 05:58 pm »
I just got called "seasoned"  . . . that seems like an euphemism for "old".  I don't want to be old.




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We are a two person team, with one sub.

I will run the deck once a week so my ASM stays fresh on calling it.

Twice a month I will go out and note the show.

We will soon add a second sub to help dealing with stepping out to note the show, train new understudies or new cast members.


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Doing off-Broadway right now.

Today we had a 8:00p show.
I came in at 6:30p
we had a 7:15 fight call
7:30p half-hour
8:05 start show
Show is down by 10:03
I have the report and schedule done and out the door by 10:30p

I do a lot of paperwork during the time between 6:30p and 7:15p

We have 8 shows a week
Monday 8:00p
Tuesday Off
Wednesday 3:00p, 8:00p
Thursday 4 hours of understudy rehearsal, 8:00p Show
Friday, 8:00p
Saturday 3:00p, 8:00
Sunday 3:00p

Total work week is about 36 hours.  I am sure a larger scale musical with a longer run time is closer to 45 or 50.


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Yeah, but the challenge is as stage managers we have to maintain the show, and yes, having an ASM call so you can note the show is one way, you are only going to do that nightly.

I am finding this challenge on my current show . . . we are performance 123, as although I can sub out and watch the show, I am trying to be fiscally responsible and split the duties with an AD.  I find the challenge is more the ability to watch the show over and over again and keep my interest up.  I tend to trick my mind sometimes - watch one actor all the way through, watch particular scenes . . . there are nights I try to take in the whole show - but with cue calling, it is down right impossible. 

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This is based off the LORT contract?  (My answers are based on the assumption that it is . . . )

The only rehearsal that can happen immediately prior to half-hour, is one hours worth of rehearsal, and that is if and only if that is the only rehearsal for the day AND the cast has voted on the specific schedule for the day.

You are doing a 10 out of 12 on a performance day?  That in itself is very odd.  Given that typically you can only rehearse five hours on a single performance day (unless the cast has elected NOT to perform on a two show day, blah, blah, blah, but that isn't even in play here it seems.)

From what I can see,  you PM is getting snagged on two rules, one - the 5 hours before a meal break, and the rehearsal immediately prior to rehearsal.  You version, loses the tech, but does it not still get snagged on the 5 hour rule?  I am also confused by that.  But, your hunch is right.  Since this seems to be a contract that is referencing another contract, I would contact AEA directly, or just warn your PM that his plan might incur overtime.

I searched the AEA website for a code or agreement on Experimental Theater Contracts on Workshops; the Workshop agreement references the Production Contract, not LORT - but seems to be negotiated on a show by show basis.  It seems like you may have specific rules negotiated. 

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