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Stage Management: Plays & Musicals / Re: PSMing vs. ASMing
« on: Aug 31, 2007, 10:59 am »
I think each position has different skills and have to be watching for different things.  I think good SM's can handle both sides, as long as they can focus on that one task.

In my experience, ASMs have to be much more detail-oriented.  Since they create the run paperwork and basically manage the deck once into tech, they have to keep meticulous track of all those components through the entire rehearsal process.  The SM has to be more of a big-picture person.  See all the aspects of a production overall and make sure they're all running smoothly, leaving the managing of all the details up to their ASMs.

I can do either task -- its when I am by myself and have to do everything (i.e., watch and keep track of the big picture AND handle all the details that things start to fall apart).

The show I'm working on now has a SM team of three -- two stage managers and an ASM.  We jokingly refer to ourselves as the "holy trinity."  The show is so complex that it really is taking all three of us at every rehearsal to make it happen!

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Stage Management: Plays & Musicals / Re: Stopwatch Use
« on: Aug 31, 2007, 10:50 am »
Does it help tell the story of the play?  Are the director and designers ok with a bit of anachronism? 

Then go for it!


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Stage Management: Plays & Musicals / Re: SM Olympics?
« on: Aug 29, 2007, 12:13 pm »
I would be in! That's a fabulous idea!

Maybe a "create a Q sheet" contest?

Not quite sure how that would work...you'd have to have a pompt book pre-done with blocking and props notes and then the contestants would have to arrange the notes into a deck Q sheet or something...points awarded for completeness, aesthetic, how well a crew member can follow it, etc.

Or..."direct a running crew" event.

You're given your Q sheet with 5 different scenes that all have different set-ups, your running crew of two or three people, and various set pieces.  You have to stage the 5 transitions, rehearse them, and make each one happen in under _____ seconds.  Points awarded for flow, grace, time, how well you handled your crew (i.e., do they hate you now?)

Let us know how this turns out!  I'd love to get something like that going in my city!


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Also information coming TO somebody directly is much different from them having to go and seek it out -- we dealt with this issue at our company this past season.

For nutcracker, I sent out weekly emails on monday with the schedule for the week, notes, reminders, etc.

Later on in the season for the showcase (the scheduling of which I am not involved in other than the tech and performance itself) the school administrator just posted the schedule on the website every week.

Parents were fine with both, but the main issue was that with Nutcracker, the info was coming to them, directly, they didn't have to go looking.  It does make a huge difference.

Granted, that's parents, we're talking about professionals on this forum, but it's similar -- I suppose I feel more comfortable knowing that the information somebody needs is going directly to them and that because they're getting it, it means that it is relevant to them in some way. 

Of course, I've never tried the "online callboard," so I can't really say how well it does or doesn't work for me.  Maybe on my next show I'll try to integrate this aspect and see how it goes over.


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Stage Management: Other / Re: Taping the stage for dance
« on: Aug 21, 2007, 12:32 pm »
Yeah, I always tape a full center line and full 1/4 lines, and if it is a kids show on a large stage I will do full 1/8 lines (like for Nutcracker) but usuallly i just do a small mark at the downstage and upstage edges for 1/8s.

Then at c/c I tape a large bright colored X (usually pink or yello).  I do the "white line of death" at the edge of the marley, and also white tape around any booms or offstage obstacles that dancers might run into as they're running offstage looking into bright sidelight (like FX machines or scenery that has to store in the wings).

The final marks I do are Xs or dashes on and around any "stage hazards."  We played on one stage that has a trap that is warped out of the rest of the stage, so there was this raised lip -- I put marks around something like that, or a white X over any divets that are in the stage so a dancer knows not to plant their pirouette right there.

And of course, spikes for any scenery or props or furniture, or any specials that the dancers might need to be in.

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Alright, this is getting blown kind of out of proportion...let me fill out the situation...

It was my first show as an SM at this particular theater, I was very young, and I wanted to please!  Good combo for getting walked over...but it worked, because I've been hired back every year...

You're right, now I know better, and probably would do things differently, but at the time, that's the only situation I could come up with. Plus she was LITERALLY on the way home from the theatre to my house...

Maybe its a holdover from the college days, when you're all in the same place and on your way from one class to another you can stop by the scene shop and make sure the TD got your notes from the night before...


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The house call scenario is a great example of an SM required to spend an inordinate amount of time on the medium of communication versus what's being communicated. I'm not saying it's bad or wrong or this or that approach would be better, or that the SM shouldn't do such a thing. I think, though, that SMs should also reap the benefits of ease from contemporary communication systems. Actually, I'm not sure what I'm saying at the moment, but I'm going off to figure it out...

Believe me -- I didn't LIKE doing this at all!  But when the designer doesn't have email or a home phone, how else are you supposed to communicate?  I was fully embracing the technology at my fingertips -- my designer wasn't, so I had to drop by whenever there were questions or notes for her.


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Crikey! I don't think "intense" accurately qualifies the situation...that's a lot of AV! I agree, though, that keeping your designer informed and feeling supported by you is the way to go. It makes me wonder why he feels like he's just a "helper" and, might it have to do with the way he chooses to receive his information regarding the production. Curious

This community theatre is on the campus of the local community college, so they have a lot of access to various college resources -- including this professor.  He's extremely good -- very good at what he does.  Which is why I think the director wanted to work with him.  But I don't think he realized the scope of this until now, when we actually started blocking (this is a new play -- I've been working on it since February...the director's been working on it since 4 years ago....maybe I'll put something up about it in the self-promotion).  Anyway...now he's hired a local AV company to do all the set up and implementation; he's just going to collect the images and video and put that all together, and then work with the switcher when we get into tech.  okay yeah I'm going to post this elsewhere.

On this topic...I think we've touched on this idea before -- how much information is too much information, and who actually needs to know everything? Does the administrative assistant in the box office really need to be on the email list for all rehearsal reports and production meeting notes?  My thought is no, becuase the box office manager is on the list and anything their assistant needs to know, they will tell them(example, these three seats will now be sold as obstructed view, make sure to adjust prices as such and tell patrons when they order). I think that we who "dole out the information," as it were, are the ones who need to control that and moderate who receives what and if we know that something is really important, we need to take pains to make sure that whoever needs to know that hears it as quickly as possible.  If someone who's not on our regular list needs information (like the shop manager is out of town and a costume ripped, so I have to call the manager's sister who's handling things while they're gone), it's our job to get it to them in whatever way works! 

In my situation, I have a designer who doesn't want to receive a lot of email. To a certain extent, he's right, and I completely understand his point -- he doesn't need to know that Actor 1 is now going to be doing a somersault and so his costume needs to allow for this.  I can't force him to open and read all rehearsal notes -- for crying out loud, I can't even get my regular designers to do that sometimes!  So, I've got to figure out a way to get him the communication he needs, and get what I need from him, without making him so mad that he quits or never wants to work with me again.

Email is great for this kind of thing -- I can just set up two lists, and if something pertains to him in the RR, I can send it to him, if it doesn't, I won't.  I know he'll read it, since I'm only sending him what pertains to him. 

The kicker here is if I don't realize that the note for the lighting designer that says "Actor 4 will now take their entrance from SL and their special for that scene needs to be adjusted" affects where he hangs projector 5.  Here's where the message becomes key, and the medium of its transference doesn't really matter.  Again, I think I have to use my best judgement.  I'm in the "better to know that not know," camp, but a lot of people aren't.

I think that in our quest to know anything and everything connected with a show, we sometimes assume that everybody else does too.  They really don't.  Often, designers want to do their own thing and even when we think they'll care about something, they don't.  I've stopped sending RRs and Prod Mtg. Notes to the rest of my office staff (marketing director, development director, administrator) at the ballet -- I found out they don't read them at all.  To which I jokingly screamed at them, "what!?  But there's stuff that pertains to you on there!"  They answered, "No, you think they do, but they really don't.  If there's something that actually affects front of house, then tell us.  But asking for another sword really doesn't concern us.  At all."  They were pretty adamant about it.  Since I want to know everything, I just figured they did.  But they really don't.  So now if something truly concerns them (like we have to cut seats because we're building a thrust or something), I just talk to them about it or send them a personal email. 

More time consuming for me, I guess, but my job is not to make my job the easiest thing in the world - it's to make the show run smoothly, and if this means I have to send 4 emails instead of 1 and make 2 phone calls and 1 house call, then so be it.  Yeah, okay, that can suck sometimes, but that's what I get paid for.  That's why I do this.  =) 

Effective communication has to be effective for everybody, not just the stage manager.  If email isn't effective for someone on the staff, it is my job, not theirs, to make it as effective as possible for them.  We can't expect everybody to be as diligent in their emailing as we are.  Just becuase I sit at a computer 8 hours a day in my office and then 3 hours a night at rehearsal and then 2 hours after that at home doesn't mean that Mr. Properties master does.  He shouldn't be -- he should be in the shop building! 

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Mod's note -- I split this topic off the IM topic!


The issue with this particular designer is that your'e right -- he isn't totally engaged with the process.  He's the video/projection designer (we're using 11 projectors on 5 different screens, 2 of which are movable to create 4 different arrangements of screen in the center, plus live video feed...it's intense!  He's extremely talented and knowledgeable, but is thinking of himself more as just a "helper" rather than a full out designer.  I don't think he fully realizes the magnitude of what this director is planning to do.

In a perfect world, he would be at every other rehearsal offering up solutions, ideas, etc.  But, we're not a perfect a world, and he isn't under a contract from the theatre -- he's just invoicing for his time (this is community theatre!) so I guess I have to do my best to strike a healthy medium between his terms and mine.  In this sitch, I think that's going to be the most effective way to communicate with him without totally antagonizing him!

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Aah...you meant two DIFFERENT shows in one day...oops...I was thinking you just meant two performances and I thought it seemed like too simple of an answer...

this makes more sense.  =)

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what is the true nature of efficient communications?

Sorry...this is off the topic of IM programs as well and more in relation to the question above.

I think it is whatever is going to work out best for your production staff and you the SM.  If that's email...great.  If a designer specicically requests phone calls when there are notes that pertain to them, then that's what I have to do.  My last show I had  designer who said, "call me, no matter how late" becuase he couldn't be at tech weekend.  So I was on the phone with him at 11:30 at night. 

Once I had a costume designer who didn't have email OR a phone (yeah...that was fun) but needed all the notes the night after rehearsal/performance and so I had to STOP BY HER HOUSE every night after rehearsal/performance (thankfully it was on the way from the theatre to my house!) whenever I had notes for her.  But, it was the only form of communication that worked.  It wasn't too bad since it was a relatively small and simple show....but still.

This particular show, I have one designer who says that because of the large volume of emails they receive every day, they don't want daily reports, they only want the reports when something pertains to them.  So now I have to set up two mailing lists, one with their email and one without, and make sure that I figure out which report has to go to which one...eek.

Efficient communication will change with each situation...that's how it stays so efficient!

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I do an excel doc with as many columns as necessary...

LAST NAME    FIRST NAME   TIME IN (call:1:30)  TIME OUT   TIME IN (call: 7:00)   TIME OUT


is this what you're asking about?

evangeline

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Hmm, can you put measure numbers or rehearsal measure marks in, then get a hold of the maestro's score and pencil it all in the same? 

(If he/she'll release it to you for a couple hours, that is!)

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Stage Management: Plays & Musicals / Re: theatre romance
« on: Jul 26, 2007, 09:36 am »
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One litmus test is to ask whether something would be appropriate behavior in a “normal” professional job.

I disagree -- the theatre world is not a "normal" world.  We can't expect everything to run as a corporate office does -- it's just not going to.  Our community is so small and so specific -- people are bound to fall in love and form relationships and get married and have kids.  And because the world is so small, they're bound to come upon opportunities to work together again that they may not be able to turn down because they need the money/the work/whatever.   Plus (IME) people outside the business don't always get it - the late nights, crazy schedules, crazy people...it can make a non-theatre relationship difficult if this is what you do for a living.

Maybe it's because I work in a company where practically everyone is married to each other.  Currently we have two married couples within the company, another couple is getting married next summer, two other dancers are dating, one dancer is dating our lighting designer, my props mistress and my TD are married...it kind of goes on.  A couple years ago I hired the guy I was dating at the time to be my ASM because I was in a bind -- it was great!  I knew exactly how he worked and he knew how I worked and I wish I could have used him as an ASM more. 

I guess I would say its not necessarily a good idea to try to start something MID-rehearsal process or run.  But if you are already in a relationship with somebody and the opportunity comes up to work together (as long as the company doesn't have a specific policy on this) and the couple knows they can be professional about it, then why not grab the opportunity?  I've always loved the chances I had to work with my significant others on shows.   

(But that's just me...everybody's different and each relationship is different and should be taken on a case by case basis!)




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Stage Management: Plays & Musicals / Re: squibs
« on: Jul 23, 2007, 04:54 pm »
OH MY GOD IT WAS SO GOOD!  But that digresses from this topic so I'll have to think about starting a new one on the green room forum....

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