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SM schools in Canada???
« on: Sep 09, 2008, 10:40 pm »
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Just thought i'd pose the question about Stage Management programs in Canada. Does anyone know of any? I've searched everywhere for one but they mostly show me theatre programs (acting) and some technical theatre courses but never saw anything there about managing. Any suggestions??? Anyone know of one???

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 10, 2008, 07:18 pm »
  Depends on what you're looking for.  There has been some discussion on the boards about this (whether to go with a full SM program or a technical theatre school with an emphasis on Stage Management).  If you are interested in the former, there are some decent SM BFA programs out there, I know the U of A's is decent.  I'm partial to the later though, and was the way I went.  There are some great tech schools out there, such as the National Theatre School of Canada, that offer a solid technical base while at the same time allowing you to actually ASM/SM more shows that you might in a BFA program.
  Other things to consider- do you have a field preference (modern dance, ballet, opera, musical theatre)?  Do you have a preference location wise in the country?  Does the lenght of the program matter to you?

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« Reply #2 on: Sep 11, 2008, 12:54 am »
Goldbird has some good questions in that post.

If you want to talk schools in Western Canada, I'd be happy to talk about it, having just finished my undergrad at the University of Alberta in Stage Management myself.

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 11, 2008, 01:36 am »
thanks for the replies. To answer those questions Goldbird, I really don't have a preference for any of that. A job would be nice :P I've looked at U of A before, and I couldn't really find anything on their website. It pretty much told me that I had to do the theatre part of it first, and then move into a major in a specific area (which really baffled me...because some tech people just REALLY aren't actors lol). So I might have gotten that wrong...But I also dont want to have to go through a theatre course for 3 or 4 years before I get to the technical side of theatre (i'm doing the theatre course at Canadore College in North Bay Ontario next september...that'll take me about 3 years and then I'll be off to find a school. But I'm A type personality so I like to have a map in front of me before I do anything). But i will check out National Theatre school of Canada...that sounds interesting. Hands on experience is an awesome way to learn. Thanks so much :D
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 18, 2008, 10:33 pm »
Also look into Ryerson (in Ontario) which is a very good school and has, from what I've heard, a good SM program. I don't know too much about it though other than that, but it's all been positive.

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 20, 2008, 03:10 pm »
What are all these programs labelled under??? cuz i've looked at U of A, and all I found was a theatre program. I know it's not labelled under Stage Management lol same with Ryerson...?
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 24, 2008, 02:26 am »
UofA is listed as a stream under technical theatre.  So the breakdown goes Arts-Drama-Fine Arts-Technical Theatre-Stage Management

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 24, 2008, 02:36 pm »
I've also checked out U of V in BC, and they have one too...but...do you know if you have to go through the theatre program first and then do a graduate in a specific area, like production or SMing, or can you just jump directly into the SMing specifics????

Checked out U of A in Alberta...and I looked at the equivilant courses that I'd need from Ontario...it seems pretty harsh, or am I just looking at it wrong?

Lol...I'm having a lot of trouble with this hahahaha It's really hard to find things on those websites (especially from Western Canada :S)

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 30, 2008, 02:07 pm »
From what I understand of UofV you sort of do your first two years in general theatre, and only in your third year do you begin to specialize.  So you'd take two years of acting, theatre history and general tech theatre before doing actual stage managing.

Really?  I havn't looked at the UofA requirements, Selena, our recruitment officer would probably have a lot more information.  A lot of people seem to be transferring in after having taken their first year pre-reqs somewhere else.  In fact, my ASM at the moment transferred from Ottawa.

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« Reply #9 on: Oct 16, 2008, 09:08 am »
Alright, thanks a bunch. I'll look into that. :)
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 20, 2008, 05:27 pm »
Hi - I'm the Undergraduate Recruitment Officer for the Department of Drama at the University of Alberta. To read more about the UofA's SM program you can visit our website at newbielink:http://www.drama.ualberta.ca [nonactive] (trying to get their from the main ualberta.ca website can be hard).  Just click on Undergraduate Students on the main menu and choose BFA Technical Theatre - Stage Management.  If you have more questions or just want to talk about the program I'd be happy to speak with you (my contact info is on each program page).  Hope you find the school that's right for you! Cheers.

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 04, 2009, 10:41 pm »
Thanks so much! I definitely will do that! :D
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 15, 2009, 12:11 am »
I'm having the same dilemma. And while I would LOVE to go to National Theatre School, and will surely be applying there, it isn't exactly the safest choice as its ridiculously hard to get into.

I have not heard the greatest things about Ryerson's Theate Production program but maybe that's just me. :)

Personally, I'm now looking closer at 2 year diploma programs. It seems, as the OP has alluded to, the Universities all force this vague theatre education on everyone, which naturally focuses on acting. I went to an arts high school for drama, where this exact same thing was done and don't feel like going through it again when there appears to be 2 year programs where you actually get hands-on experience.

Is a BA or BFA really that important in a career like this?

Besides NTS, I'm looking into Sheridan Oakville and Humber btw.

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« Reply #13 on: Jul 15, 2009, 05:41 pm »
I graduated UofA in 2004. If you're concerned about not doing enough shows, don't be. They take a max of 8 students/year, so there's plenty of shows to go around. Yes, you have to do 1 year of basic requirements, like any university program (business, science, etc - you usually can't apply for a major until 2nd year anyway). I SMed 3 shows, ASMed 2, PSMed a one-act festival, worked (volunteered) in all departments (props, wardrobe, electrics, carpentry) in 3 years. I have a couple of things that I would definitely recommend about the UofA.

1 - It's a conservatory. That means that they tell you what courses to take and when. It's designed to make you a well-rounded theatre professional with a broad array of skills. This is different than other BFA or college programs in that you don't take only the courses that are of most interest to you and then some electives, but most of the courses are designed in a 3-year arc, rather than cramming everything you need to know in one semester. It doesn't make it easier but you go much more in-depth.

2 - All the department heads in the theatre are IATSE members and work under a special contract to the university. They understand that they're working with students and that teaching is part of their job, but they've been hired to be a department head. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.

3 - Also, you start working under Equity rules from day 1. This means 8-hour days/6 days a week ON TOP of a full course load. Know what you're getting into. Having a job is impossible.

4 - It's a HUGE drama department, with the infrastructure that goes along with that. They offer BA, BA (Honors), BFA Design, MFA Design, BFA Acting, MFA Directing, and MA drama programs, as well as BFA Technical Theatre and BFA Stage Management. But because many of those programs are small, there's a TON of one-on-one. Aside from the academic courses (Theatre History and the like) I don't think I had a class with more than 15 people in it. Even then, I think my biggest class had only about 45 or so. (On a side note: my ex did his MA there, then went to Carleton for his PhD. His biggest complaint? For the first year and a half of the PhD he was re-hashing the same kind of work they did at UofA's MA program.)

5 - Not to be crass, but it IS Alberta. They've got money. Budgets for the mainstage shows can be pretty sweet! A show in my second year, we had a 16' tall statue of a naked woman fly in near the end....then shoot confetti out of her nipples!!

6 - The main facilities (Timms Centre) are only 12 years old. It's quite luxurious. It's got a full fly tower, lowering apron (with 3 levels), 4'x4' traps over the entire stage, dressing rooms that fit 20 easily, a HUGE rehearsal hall (WITH windows!!!), a black box. The wardrobe inventory is second in the province to only the Banff Centre for the Arts. The props department has a 2nd warehouse space, in addition to the two giant storage rooms in the Timms. The Arts building also has a black box with a fly system, another (smaller) thrust theatre, a dance studio, 2 huge rehearsal rooms, etc, etc. I could go on and on!

7 - As for course work, I did set design, lighting design, history of dress and decor, drafting, a couple acting classes, directing, I learned how to read music, stage combat from the guy who teaches at Banff Centre, I got my PAL, First Aid & CPR, Theatre History, Canadian theatre, Modern Drama, learned how to SM dance of all types, including Sutton dance notation, not to mention...um..ACTUAL stage management LOL!

Sorry for the Tolstoy. I started and more thoughts came out! Anyway, I'm really happy that I did the BFA there. I learned a lot, and I often refer back to my notes for a refresher on a subject or several. Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about UofA.