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SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« on: Jul 27, 2010, 07:35 pm »
Meetings in NY/Chi/LA about the new SETA contract and touring Tier contracts...  Hoping to get some serious explanations about this new SETA contract and if tours on Full Production contract are a thing of the past.

http://www.actorsequity.org/NewsMedia/news2010/july27.seta.asp

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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #1 on: Aug 06, 2010, 05:16 pm »
Just got home from the meeting, attended at the NY office.  There was a lot of good information presented, and I think some good clarification for some members on several points, including the way tours qualify for the various tiers now presented in the Production contract and the SETA contract.

If anybody has any questions about what was discussed just let me know.  I'll try to post a fuller synthesis of the notes I took later, once I've eaten and gone through to make sure all my scribbles and jottings make sense to myself  :)


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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #2 on: Aug 07, 2010, 03:48 am »
EXCELLENT meeting today.
A lot of great information was passed along.
I've been doing this for awhile and I learned a lot.
Here's to many more of the same...
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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #3 on: Aug 07, 2010, 10:30 am »
Agreed - had to leave early for a rehearsal but I learned so much. Babens, VSM, anything important dispensed after our original host had to leave (I followed shortly thereafter)? (that was abt 11:30 West Coast time)

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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #4 on: Aug 08, 2010, 12:45 pm »
I was unable to call in, and missed this meeting entirely.  I would be grateful to hear what I missed and catch up on the information offered. If someone posted notes here, or contacted me personally, I would be most grateful!
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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #5 on: Aug 08, 2010, 03:19 pm »
Here's what I have from my scribbled notes.  I'm sure if I'm missing something, or interpreting something wrong, others who were there could help fill in the blanks.  I've put a (?) where I failed to write down a specific and am going off of memory/uncertainty.

As we know, the Tiers were officially created as "experimental" in the 2004 negotiations.  In the most recent negotiations, 2008, they dropped the experimental status and they are full fledged.

Initially 6 Tiers were created, B (the highest) through G (the lowest).  However, they found that E, F, and G were rarely if ever used.  By the time a production got to where they would qualify for those tiers producers were opting out and choosing to license the show to the non-Equity markets (chiefly NETworks and Troika).  So the bottom three tiers were split off to become the basis of the SETA contract.

Tiered Production Contract
To qualify to use one of the Production Contract Tiers the producers must meet three requirements
1. The majority of the itinerary must be engagements of 1 week or less.
2. The entire traveling company, and that includes all staff, not just AEA members, must number 41 or higher.
3. The guarantee charged to the presenters could not be more than $350,000.

If all three of these are not met then the show must go out under the Full Production Contract.

There are several factors that could be counted as a "credit" against the guarantee.  Shipping/trucking costs, and total number of company members above 61(?), again taking into account all show staff, not just AEA members.

Per Diem/Housing on the Tiers
$114/day in all cities
As with the full contract, the producers must offer a choice of two hotels/housing options.  Unlike the full contract, the lower priced of the two options must average $71 or less/per night over the course of 26 weeks.  If that average is higher than $71 then the producers must pay out any overage.  That payment is made every 13 weeks.

Overage Participation
With the Tiers all Equity members have a stake in the Overage.

The overage is calculated from the net box office gross, i.e. once the presenters have paid out the guarantee plus 10% of the box office to the producers and then subtracted their own fees (salaries, local costs, etc).  Whatever is left over is the overage, which the local presenter then splits with producers in some way (usually a 60/40 split, with the producers, of course getting the larger chunk).  All Equity members then receive 0.25% of this profit.  As they said, some weeks there is no payment, others it may be just a few dollars, and then some weeks it could be a couple of hundred dollars.

Once the show recoups the actors' share jumps to 0.325%.  Minimum salaries also jump 17% if this happens.

Pretty much all other working rules remain the same as the Full Production contract.

SETA (Short Engagement Touring Agreement)

Created from the original E, F, and G tiers from the Production Contract.  Three lower tiers have been added for a total of 6 tiers.

Qualifications
1. A majority of the itinerary includes engagements of 1 week or less
2. Average guarantee not above $200,000(?)
3. Total company of 21(?) or more.  Unlike the Production Contract, only AEA members are counted for this purpose, other staff (crew, musicians, etc.) are not taken into consideration.

Housing/Per Diem
The Producer pays for housing.  All provided housing must be AAA Double Diamond rated or better.

Per Diem rates as follows:
If the actor chooses to have a single room - $41/day
If the actor chooses double occupancy - $51/day
If the actor opts out of the Producer provided housing - $84/day

Travel
3 hours on a 2 performance day
7 hours on a 1 performance day
10 hours on a day with no performances
Once every two weeks they are allowed a 12 hour travel day on a non-performance day

Baggage
200 lbs max that the Producer is responsible.
Producer pays for one checked bag equaling 50 lbs.  The other 150 lbs travel in trunks.
Twice a year (every six months) the producer pays for the shipment of seasonal wardrobe changes.

Itinerary
Lay offs can only account for 25% of the itinerary.
The proposed itinerary must be attached with the contract at signing.
For any lay off weeks that go over the allowed 25% due to cancellations, etc, per diem, health payments, sick leave payments, and vacation accrual are still due.

The Golden Day (no work or travel) on this contract is defined as a full 24 hours, not one calendar day.

There can be up to 32 performances in a 4 week period.  This could allow for some weeks to have 9 performances while the next may only have 7. 

On this contract 2 ASMs are required for musicals.  The 2nd ASM may, as one of their assigned duties, travel with the acting company to assist the company manager with the check in/check out process at hotels.  This is most often likely to be utilized if the company is split between two buses, as ATPAM has currently only negotiated one company manager for this contract.  For an additional negotiated payment this 2nd ASM may also assist the company manager with making housing and travel arrangements.  IF the ASM is providing this function they can not also serve in another capacity such as understudy, swing, or dance captain.

Point of Organization
The Point of Organization has been eliminated in this contract.  Housing and per diem payments are made whenever the actor is performing outside of a 50 mile radius from their address that is registered with Equity.  Because of this the producer has the right to ask at auditions where the actor is currently living and this address is what will be used for determining when per diem and housing is due.

During rehearsals if the actor's permanent residence is outside of 50 miles but within 70 miles a partial per diem payment is due.

Wow, that just took quite a bit to get down.  I'll try to add some of the questions that were asked and the response to said questions after my show tonight.

*Already thought of one more thing to add*
6 Month Chorus Rider
The Tiers follow the same rule as the Full Production.  If a chorus member signs the six month rider the only way they can break it is if they are offered a Principal Contract under the Production Contract (Full or Tiered).
On the SETA contract the six month rider can be waived for either a Principal OR Chorus contract under the Production Contract (Full or Tiered).
« Last Edit: Aug 08, 2010, 03:28 pm by babens »

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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #6 on: Aug 09, 2010, 04:06 am »
My concern/participation in the meeting had less to do with learning the nuts and bolts of the contract (which I can, with much time, read on my own) but the history and future of the contract.  A few things that stuck out to me:

As mentioned, the SETA originated as Production Contract Tiers E, F and G.  The separate contract was created in part to help protect the Production Contract, ie. to prevent concessions granted in the SETA from creeping into the regular Production Contract (the next Production contract & Tiers will be negotiated first, then the SETA will be negotiated.)

There is a misconception that putting a show on SETA is cheating our members, that those are potential Production Contract jobs that the producers are getting for a steal...  Instead, shows on the SETA are seen as shows that would have gone non-Equity, but by offering the SETA, we are at least getting health benefits, union rules, etc. 
 
The overage participation should provide a checks and balances...  If a show is making money, you will see it in your pocket.  If the show is making so much it should really be on Production contract, it will most likely be the producer to request it - (Paying the overages would be more costly than being on the Tier contract.)

STRAIGHT PLAYS: there are provisions to use the SETA for straight plays but the restrictions are such that it's not going to be very prevalent - it's mostly written with the musical in mind.

SM pay for Load-in/Load-out...  I can't remember if this was for SETA or Tiers but they've added at $30 payment for SM's working Load-in/Load out.  Equity acknowledges this rate in no way represents the work we as SMs do (it's about an hour of OT) but felt it was symbolic.  I don't really know how I feel about it - part of me feels like it puts producers in a position to say "Well, we pay you extra for this," even though the amount is paltry...  I'll have to reserve judgement until I see it in action.

By my count, the only shows out on Full Production contract are Billy Elliot, Wicked, Jersey Boys, and Mary Poppins.  Shows going out on the SETA include Mamma Mia (which is in its 10th year or something and would easily gone non-union), Young Frankenstein 2nd National (1st national was not exactly a moneymaker...) and Rock of Ages (this one seemed to cause the most controversy considering Constantine & its hit NY run, but Equity's argument/understanding is that it's a show that will be a *really* hard to sell in B markets and Constantine isn't that much a draw.)  Shows going out on Tier include West Side Story, South Pacific, and I think 9 to 5 and Shrek.

MY sense coming away from the meeting - I understand adding the new SETA contract to keep tours that would likely go non-Eq on Eq contracts...  While the pay may not be great, there are people who will be happy to take the jobs (just as there are people who work on the HAT/CAT/BAT, etc that pay little.  SETA is not going to be the death of the Full Production contract; however, I came away feeling less certain about the role of Tiers.

My other issue is broader in the sense of how our union communicates with us.  I hadn't heard about SETA until I was offered a job under the contract.  Had no idea it was being negotiated, created, existed...  That's frustrating to me.  Even this meeting, I only knew about it because I happened to check the AEA website (although I understand some people were invited by email to participate) and the information was taken down prior to the meeting (luckily, I had posted the link here so I could use that to double check the time...)    Supposedly Equity is going to send out a "Communication survey"; I look forward to it, assuming I get the email...

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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #7 on: Aug 09, 2010, 12:39 pm »
And, the pay is pretty darn good from my perspective and from the perspective of the smaller contracts like SPT, BAT, HAT and even LORT etc that many of us work a lot - all of which pay LESS than the smallest SETA contract. So I am very happy to work a SETA contract and make a decent living.

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Re: SETA and Tier contracts meeting
« Reply #8 on: Aug 12, 2010, 04:43 pm »
Hopefully the fact that most members in attendance expressed their gratitude for this meeting will lead to more like it.

I'm not sure how the choice as to who to email about it was made.  I just assumed that the notice for the meeting went out as a general membership email, since otherwise I could not see why I would have been selected to be invited (not having worked under either the Production Contract or the SETA).

And I am in total agreement with loebtmc.  If other members don't want to accept these SETA, or even the Tiered contracts, I am more than willing to step in and take those positions  ;)

 

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