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Changing Economics of the Road
« on: Aug 23, 2011, 08:50 pm »
So, as many people know the AEA Tour of Billy Elliott shut down in SF this weekend.  About 120 (or so) people lost their jobs.

The economics of such a large show, with kids, and all that goes with that, was just making the amount of money required to keep this show afloat just wasn't there.

It's now be reorganized as a NETworks going out on  Short Engagement Touring Agreement (SETA) $741/week minimum.  It's trying to get back out and pick up the tour dates already sold.   

It's interesting to see the once might road, the sort of end all be all of contracts being completely reworked, and now being quite a bit less profitable . . . that less then a lot of LORT Contracts.
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Re: Changing Economics of the Road
« Reply #1 on: Aug 24, 2011, 05:51 pm »
What? I've been in ShakesFest hell and hadn't heard of this. How unfortunate. It would be interesting to see if anyone notices any differences on the tour with the change.

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Re: Changing Economics of the Road
« Reply #2 on: Sep 01, 2011, 10:32 am »
So salaries are slashed to pieces, the set will be cut down to scraps, and the cast will be reduced.

Who wants to bet ticket prices won't change? 

So who's getting money in their pockets here?  It's times like this when I have a hard time with commercial theatre.  So an equity PSM on a national tour makes LESS Money than an ASM on a LORT B.  Wow.

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Re: Changing Economics of the Road
« Reply #3 on: Sep 01, 2011, 02:06 pm »
The SM minimum even on the lowest SETA tour is still above the ASM minimum for a LORT B+/non-rep, not much, but still above.

And, quite frankly, the PSMs who are still taking these tours out still seem to be at the level where they are not working for minimums.

And, to look at the bright side, at least it's being sent back out on a SETA contract.  Before that was created there would have been a big giant non-Equity casting call going on right now to send it out, at the same prices, with a bunch of fresh from college kids getting paid $400 a week.

The other thing to remember is that the producers of the tour don't set ticket prices, that is each individual venue/presenter.  The producers charge the presenters the guarantee (i.e. how much money the presenter has to pay up front to bring the show in, hoping that ticket sales ending up covering that cost, which they don't always), which is limited to a certain amount based on the tier they are using, which goes for all levels of touring under Production, Tiered Production, and SETA.  So producers do make less money overall on these tours, and when they do make more then the cast also sees a reflection of that in the overage share.

It may seem like we are just letting the producers walk all over us, but they have shown in the past that they are pretty willing to just stop dealing with Equity and send out first national tours non-Equity if they think they can't get their money's worth.  NETworks did it with the first national of the Trevor Nunn Oklahoma revival, the Cameron Mackintosh revival of Oliver, and The Wedding Singer, and Big League did with the Stroman revival of The Music Man, just to name a few.

Thanks to the SETA contract Equity was able to regain contracts of the tour of Chicago, as well as keep Mamma Mia under contract and send out a few others like Little House on the Prairie.

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Re: Changing Economics of the Road
« Reply #4 on: Sep 02, 2011, 08:56 am »
The economics of such a large show, with kids, and all that goes with that, was just making the amount of money required to keep this show afloat just wasn't there.

It's interesting, because I've been having this discussion with the IATSE crew that I work with (whose contracts are up for renegotiation right now).  There's a reason they sold the show to NETworks - it wasn't making the money anymore.  Huge first nationals cost a lot of money to put on (tons of trucks, large casts, higher minimums) BUT also, they are only able to play to certain "A markets", simply because their huge show won't fit into some of the smaller venues across the country.

And, knowing what some of the SMs who work for NETworks on the non equity shows, I doubt that anyone with experience (road or not) is making the minimum....

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Re: Changing Economics of the Road
« Reply #5 on: Dec 05, 2011, 02:11 am »
An interesting article a friend showed me about the business model of touring from AEA

http://actorsequity.org/NewsMedia/news2011/oct31.Touring102.asp