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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #30 on: Dec 21, 2010, 10:17 pm »
Just curious as to how the Times came to have this video - the caption states it's a reader video.

Doesn't diminish the injury at all. Or the issues. Just an observation.

Someone in the audience last night was video taping and gave the video to the Times.  I'm curious what--if anything--will be done about the inherent problem there once the dust settles around injuries/safety.  It's interesting that none of the articles so far have mentioned the fact that video recording is illegal in Broadway houses. 
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #31 on: Dec 21, 2010, 11:33 pm »
As far as the video, coming from a teenager on the internet, the only surprising thing about it is the quality - they usually aren't that good/ are farther away. It is, of course, illegal, but I would be surprised if anyone was actually surprised.

These injuries are getting concerning, though. I mean, fly cables are one thing, but safety cables are another entirely. It's unfortunate, but I can't help thinking that "human error" means someone worried about fly cables forgot to check safety cables. It's a terrible situation, and my heart goes out the the management team and the actors. It's got to be taking a toll on their nerves at this point. The traditional "break a leg" sounds significantly more awkward now that usual.
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #32 on: Dec 22, 2010, 12:18 am »
MarcieA - my thought as well - horrific injuries aside, how did this (clearly illegal) taping occur and (along w all the other things we are asking of your union) can that person be taking to task for it?

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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #33 on: Dec 22, 2010, 12:43 am »
I would say once or twice a week an illegal taping of a show is made.  With smaller and smaller cameras with better quality, people want to "capture" the experience.  For a long time, it was just the improvement of audio boot leg recordings, but I have to say they happen much more often then you imagine.  For a long time, you were able to very easily go to some web sites and watch these recordings, but there has some good work between some of the more popular web sites and AEA in getting them off.   In a house of 1,800 seats, over three levels - it's very hard for the house staff to catch everyone. 

Add that to a show with SO MUCH preview buzz, I am surprised there aren't more videos flaying about.  (I hear of rumor of the first preview being shown around certain circles.)
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #34 on: Dec 22, 2010, 09:05 am »
I have to wonder how I would be if I was an ASM on this production. I can't even begin to imagine what the PSM is feeling.

I would like to think that I would be the one who would remain calm under pressure, always be quick with a joke, and be completely on top of things. The stress would never get to me.

Then I think of the reality. The folks working on this production have been in "tech/preview" mode for months now. There is $65 million dollars invested in this, the NY times writing an article about the process every day, a demanding (albeit a genius) director, and Bono. How could any human withstand the pressure?

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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #35 on: Dec 22, 2010, 09:16 am »
Slightly off topic:

I agree with MatthewShiner, illegal taping of shows happens all the time now, despite how vigilant the FOH staff or clear your signage is.  The tour that I'm working on now suffers from illegal video taping and FLASH photography almost every show (with non-flash photography occurring multiple times every show for sure).  Granted, with a tour, you are more likely to have these issues because the FOH staff does not travel with the production, but this was also the case at the last off-Broadway show I worked for.

How people think that disruptive flash photography is okay, I'll never understand.

More on topic:

I wonder if they will release more information on the "human error" that caused this accident.  With such a high profile show, and with the accidents that have already plagued the show, one would hope that more details would be revealed...

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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #36 on: Dec 22, 2010, 10:16 am »

Even if that's the case, this is a failure in equipment. There's not all that much you can do about random happenings like this aside from triple checking the equipment preshow. And even then, things break.


Things may break -- but actors break far too often on "Puppet Master" Taymor's shows.  "Lion King" has the most horrific accident rate -- surpassing even the high risk roller skating juggernaut "Starlight Express".

I'm still aghast at the thought of Spidey battling a "giant spider".  Nothing I've read so far indicates that this director has the slightest idea about what makes the Spiderman mythos powerful and resonant.


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Re: Performers & Safety - would you walk off a show?
« Reply #37 on: Dec 22, 2010, 11:38 am »
Does anybody know what company made the flying rig?

According to the New York Post, the aerial stunt equipment was built by Fisher Technical Services from Las Vegas. 
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #38 on: Dec 22, 2010, 12:15 pm »
This stunt was not an automated effect and Fisher did not build this effect.


http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/12/21/entertainment-us-spider-man-fall_8217793.html?boxes=Homepagebusinessnews


Fisher is doing the automated effects in the show.
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #39 on: Dec 22, 2010, 02:08 pm »


Even if that's the case, this is a failure in equipment. There's not all that much you can do about random happenings like this aside from triple checking the equipment preshow. And even then, things break.


Just to make sure I'm being accurate, I made that statement before it was announced (or before I read at least) the conclusion by Equity that it was human error. I do hope we find out exactly what happened, but I hold no hope what so ever that it will be released.

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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #40 on: Dec 22, 2010, 06:02 pm »
http://www.playbill.com/news/article/146074-Dec-22-Evening-Performance-of-Spider-Man-Canceled-Department-of-Labor-Explains-New-Protocol

Dec. 22 Evening Performance of Spider-Man Canceled; Department of Labor Explains New Protocol

By Andrew Gans
22 Dec 2010

The Dec. 22 evening performance of Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark at the Foxwoods Theatre has been canceled following the Dec. 20 injury of actor Christopher Tierney. The matinee performance had also been canceled.

A Dec. 22 statement from the show's spokesperson reads, "Spider-Man Turn Off The Dark, Occupational Safety and Health Administration, and the New York State Department of Labor have agreed on the implementation of additional protocols which will be rehearsed today and this evening. As such, tonight's performance of Spider-Man Turn Off The Dark has been cancelled. Performances will resume tomorrow evening (Thursday)."

Ticket holders for the Dec. 22 evening performance who purchased their tickets through Ticketmaster will be contacted directly and given the ability to book tickets for a future performance at no cost or receive a full refund. Customers who purchased tickets for either the Dec. 22 matinee or evening performance through other sales outlets must contact their point of purchase.

A spokesperson for the New York Department of Labor explained in a Dec. 22 media conference call the new protocol that will be in place to help ensure the safety of actors in Spider-Man. All 41 maneuvers that involve a tether, rope or wire attached to a harness will now be supervised by at least two stagehands. The first stagehand will make the attachment; the second stagehand will verify that the connection has been made and will also alert the stage manager that it is safe to proceed. The actor involved in the maneuver will also perform a self check and has the right to say if he or she still feels unprepared to perform this stunt; in fact, the spokesperson said, actors are encouraged to speak up if they do not feel safe.

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The Department of Labor spokesperson said that most of the maneuvers did not have this redundancy in place prior to the Dec. 20 incident.

The spokesperson also said that all four injuries were failures of the safety procedures that were in place. This new protocol, the spokesperson said, should resolve these issues.

Actors' Equity also released a Dec. 22 statement about safety procedures, which reads, "Actors' Equity is committed to making the theatrical work environment as safe as possible. We start to identify potential risks in new productions as early as possible, examining such potential risk elements as raked stages, smoke and haze, stunts, firearms, flying, and unusual or overly-demanding choreography.

"Equity staff begins looking for these elements with the first readings of early drafts of scripts or production concepts. Our staff is in regular contact with production and stage management as soon as those parties are identified. Our staff has significant experience identifying risk elements and working with the production to develop safety protocols. However technology is rapidly evolving as theatre artists push the boundaries of creativity. As these boundaries expand, we constantly monitor these developments in order to best protect our members.

"As performers well know, the backstage area is a dense, complicated, and fast-moving area of live activity and machinery. In older theatres, we are faced with massive technology jammed into buildings that are over 100 years old. Theatre professionals are expert at making it all work, however, despite these efforts, accidents do occur.

"Every theatrical accident or injury is cause for urgent concern, thorough investigation, and active follow-up. Equity logs each and every accident no matter how seemingly minor or major the circumstance. The database this provides us, yields vital information that shapes our daily procedures as well as preparation of contract proposals."

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Directed by Julie Taymor, the cast is headed by Reeve Carney as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, Next to Normal Tony nominee Jennifer Damiano as Mary Jane Watson and Broadway veteran Patrick Page as Norman Osborn/The Green Goblin.

They are joined by Natalie Mendoza, Michael Mulheren, Ken Marks, Isabel Keating, Jeb Brown, T.V. Carpio, Mat Devine, Gideon Glick, Jonathan Schwartz, Matthew James Thomas, Laura Beth Wells, Matt Caplan, Dwayne Clark, Luther Creek, Gerald Avery, Collin Baja, Marcus Bellamy, Emmanuel Brown, Erin Elliott, Dana Marie Ingraham, Ayo Janeen Jackson, Heather Lang, Ari Loeb, Natalie Lomonte, Kevin Loomis, Kristin Martin, Jodi McFadden, Kristen Oei, America Olivo, Jennifer Perry, Kyle Post, Brandon Rubendall, Sean Samuels, Dollar Tan and Christopher Tierney.

Reeve Carney is the front man for the LA-based rock band Carney. Zane Carney (guitar), Jon Epcar (drums) and Aiden Moore (bass), who are also featured in that band, are part of the Spider-Man orchestra.

Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark features a book by Taymor and Glen Berger, and new music and lyrics by Bono and The Edge.

"Drawing from more than 40 years of Marvel comic books for inspiration," Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark, according to press notes, "spins a new take on the mythic tale of Peter Parker, a teenager whose unremarkable life in Queens is turned upside-down — literally — when he's bitten by a genetically-altered spider and wakes up the next morning clinging to the ceiling. Bullied by his classmates and tortured by an unrelenting crush on next-door-neighbor Mary Jane Watson, this science geek discovers he has suddenly been endowed with astonishing powers. He soon learns, however, that with great power comes great responsibility. Maligned by the media, buffeted by financial woes, and stretched thin by the expectations of the world-at-large, Peter now must struggle to navigate the perilous and peculiar demands of being a web-slinging superhero."

The creative team comprises Daniel Ezralow (choreography), George Tsypin (scenic design), Academy Award winner Eiko Ishioka (costume design), Tony Award winner Donald Holder (lighting design), Jonathan Deans (sound design), Kyle Cooper (projection design), Julie Taymor (mask design), Campbell Young Associates (hair design), Judy Chin (makeup design), Scott Rogers (aerial design), Jaque Paquin (aerial rigging design), David Campbell (orchestrations & arrangements), Teese Gohl (musical supervision) and Kimberly Grigsby (music director).

Producers are Michael Cohl & Jeremiah J. Harris, Land Line Productions, Hello Entertainment/David Garfinkle/Tony Adams, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Norton Herrick and Herrick Entertainment, Billy Rovzar & Fernando Rovzar Jeffrey B. Hecktman, Omneity Entertainment/Richard G. Weinberg, James L. Nederlander, Terry Allen Kramer, S2BN Entertainment, Jam Theatricals, The Mayerson/Gould/Hauser/Tysoe Group, Patricia Lambrecht, and Paul McGuinness by arrangement with Marvel Entertainment.

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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #41 on: Dec 22, 2010, 10:08 pm »
All 41 maneuvers that involve a tether, rope or wire attached to a harness will now be supervised by at least two stagehands. The first stagehand will make the attachment; the second stagehand will verify that the connection has been made and will also alert the stage manager that it is safe to proceed. The actor involved in the maneuver will also perform a self check and has the right to say if he or she still feels unprepared to perform this stunt; in fact, the spokesperson said, actors are encouraged to speak up if they do not feel safe.

I've never done a show with effects like this, so maybe I'm off base, but wouldn't this procedure of confirmation and double-checking be standard in this type of stunt? Why would the SM continue the cues without the confirmation from the stagehand?
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #42 on: Dec 23, 2010, 12:07 am »
Until one of us can speak to the SM team directly, I would not believe the press on what the cause of the issue was or the solution.

The press release "solution" seems a bit too much like lip service.
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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #43 on: Dec 23, 2010, 01:39 am »
Agree with Matthew. If the feds and the Times are involved, this is a big spinfest.  The safety team isn't the only crew working round the clock here, PR is probably going nuts (and very happy).

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Re: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark
« Reply #44 on: Dec 23, 2010, 11:07 am »
Kay's probably right about the PR folks.  "Any press is good press."  Right?
In that vein, one thing the "Spider-Man Debacle" (as it's been dubbed at my theatre) has done is get your average Joe talking about live theatre.  At least live theatre is popping up on the publics' collective radars, again.
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