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Response Time
« on: Dec 28, 2011, 11:01 pm »
Helpful hint, in larger markets, such as New York, yes, who you know and your resume will help you get a job . . .

But also there is the time it takes you to response.

Recently be trying to fill a position on an upcoming show, and becoming very frustrated by how long it takes people to respond.  If it takes three days to respond to an e-mail . . . how reachable are you going to be when you get the job. 

Sometimes the first to respond gets the job.
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Re: Response Time
« Reply #1 on: Dec 29, 2011, 06:23 am »
It’s interesting to hear you say that; I’ve never been in a hiring position, but I’ve often been frustrated from the other side (waiting for person who is hiring to respond).  I know we’ve had some threads about that here and the consensus, as I recall, seems to be that you shouldn’t expect a response to an application unless you’ve had an interview. 

The hiring person has an upper hand, so response-time expectations may be different, but I would still hope that impatience does not rule the day.  I would think a 5-7 day window would be more reasonable than three days, unless the initial email to the person states a “please respond by” date.  Otherwise you may miss out on someone who would be a great fit just because you wrote while they were on vacation (especially at this holiday time of year) or dealing with a family emergency.   A lack of response could be indicative of an SM who is extremely busy and makes their current project a priority, a valuable trait in a potential  hire, and they are waiting for their day off to write a good response. 

As the potential hire, I would question whether there are underlying problems within a company that has enough of a rush on a project that they can’t wait more than three days to hear from me.  Yes, theater is different from other professions in many ways, but this may be an aspect of the industry where it doesn’t hurt us to be more like everybody else.
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Re: Response Time
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29, 2011, 09:08 am »
I expect a response to mail messages within 48 business hours.  While 5-7 days may not seem like a lot, if you let three, four, five days go by between every (or even some) correspondence you can quickly find yourself at three weeks without a whole lot of progress.  Then if the arrangement doesn't work, how long is the PSM left to find someone else to fill this position?  If you go through that song and dance three times you can easily find yourself up the creek.

Earlier this month I ran into a similar situation with a technician I am subcontracting to complete service.  The first tech I contacted didn't respond for seven business days.  By the time he did, I had already contacted someone else, heard back, and contracted them for the work.  The work isn't until late January however I wanted to resolve the issue, respond positively to my client and move on to the next item on my list. 

This isn't exactly the same as booking an SM, however the principle is indentical, sometimes the first to respond does get the job.  Keep in mind whoever is doing the hiring also has many other tasks or responsibilities.  And yes, the employer definitely has the upper hand, but that's the way it is.
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Re: Response Time
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29, 2011, 09:37 am »
When I'm mentoring I emphasize a 24 hour response time, even if the response is "I've received your offer, thank you, let me get back to you in three days when things settle down and we can iron out the details." No one gets the telepathic messages of hey, can't take a minute for a quick email but you'll be waiting when I get around to it, right?
Matthew is right: those first initial emails can tell a lot about how you handle business.

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #4 on: Dec 29, 2011, 12:26 pm »
Ah, I did leave off one important fact . . . we are filling a position left by a team member who LEFT a week before pre-production, so we are against a time crunch. 

Often, when I am looking to fill a position I will send out an email to 8 or 10 people to see who is "interested and available", and I may not wait to hear back from all 8 or 10 people, and may just move forward as people answer. 

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #5 on: Dec 29, 2011, 01:08 pm »
I've been trained to the following intervals as acceptable:

Text message, Facebook chat - 5 min tops
Voicemail - 1-2 hrs
Facebook inbox, Facebook or twitter @msg - 4-12 hrs
Email - 12-24 hrs

And always reply using the same medium: if you receive an email, reply by email.
« Last Edit: Dec 29, 2011, 01:25 pm by PSMKay »

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #6 on: Dec 29, 2011, 01:34 pm »
What is interesting to note is that response time - even if the response is "thanks, I have you received your e-mail, I will get back to you Monday" - is actually part of my decision making process.  If I don't hear back from you in three days, then I feel like you are not as on top on communication as I would like (now, in the case in example, the holidays complicates things) - but in this era - responding to a work e-mail within 24 hours seems to be a fair request - especially in a job offer situation. 

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #7 on: Dec 29, 2011, 02:50 pm »
Certainly a reasonable request.  And even around the holidays or if you're on vacation, if you know you'll be out of touch and will be receiving work emails then you should set up an auto-response with details about when the sender can expect to hear back.  This is doubly true if you know you've got resumes out there and are expecting communication regarding an offer.  A lot of it is about managing expectations; if you fail to manage expecations, in this case by not acknowleding receipt of the email, you're allowing the sender to make their own assumptions and form their own expectation about when you will respond. 
« Last Edit: Dec 29, 2011, 03:12 pm by kmc307 »
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Re: Response Time
« Reply #8 on: Dec 29, 2011, 02:53 pm »
but in this era - responding to a work e-mail within 24 hours seems to be a fair request - especially in a job offer situation. 

Agreed. Everyone has a smart phone these days.  Send me back an email, even if it says I've received this.

When in a hiring situation it is usually the first qualified person to get back to me that is the one to get the job.  It shows promptness, respect for time and best of all, enthusiasm.

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #9 on: Dec 29, 2011, 04:30 pm »
Everyone has a smart phone these days.  Send me back an email, even if it says I've received this.

I've been trained to the following intervals as acceptable:

Text message, Facebook chat - 5 min tops
Voicemail - 1-2 hrs
Facebook inbox, Facebook or twitter @msg - 4-12 hrs
Email - 12-24 hrs

And always reply using the same medium: if you receive an email, reply by email.

I don't have a smart phone. As ubiquitous as they appear, not everyone can afford them. And if you call my home phone (I give out home and cell number) and leave a message there, I won't hear the message until I get home after my show or day job. I am slowly switching over to my google voice number, so I only give out one number which rings both home and cell.

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #10 on: Dec 29, 2011, 07:57 pm »
But planetmike, you are not working in the strongly competitive market.

Having a smart phone might be a good investment if you are working in NYC - because sometimes you may need to answer an work e-mail very quickly during the day, and you don't want to be tied to your computer.  (like when you go to the store, museum, etc, etc).  If you are not in such a competitive market, or not working on projects that demand such quick response time, then just having a cell phone should be fine.

In response to PSM's response times . . . most people know that during rehearsal I can't not deal with messages until the next break . . . which may be 80 minutes away.

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #11 on: Dec 30, 2011, 02:19 am »
Matthew, I agree that response time above 24 hours is uninspiring, especially in this market. However.... if it's genuinely urgent, might it not be more appropriate to make a phone call? Or even a call, followed up with a text saying "Hi, this is XYZ, please hear voicemail/see email in the next hour and respond"?

While I try to be fast about email responses (same day or next day, 99 percent of the time) there are times when email does not communicate the urgency of the request. I'm a big fan of using the most direct means available... you can have a conversation on the phone, and thereby avoid much time-consuming email correspondence. If it's important to generate a paper trail, I'm more than happy to send an email with detailed notes from a phone call, or receive the same from a  colleague.

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Re: Response Time
« Reply #12 on: Dec 30, 2011, 02:35 am »
Meg, a call might be, if it wasn't for the fact we were sending out a wide net checking for availability and interest.

What got me was someone responding over 3 days later, and being genuinely upset we had filled the position already.

If it was an offer, it would be most likely be a phone call or email/phone call follow up.
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